IRC Chat with Travismo, Executive Producer of The Matrix Online


^1Man_Army: =/
^1Man_Army: what idea?
Cheshire: nothing earth shatteringly unique
Cheshire: Matrix RPG
Cheshire: pen and paper
^1Man_Army: make one yourself... just dont market it
Cheshire: That would defeat the point
Drakdragon: you can make a neat one with rpg maker
Cheshire: there's tons of unofficial ones out tere
codespace: what would make it unique?
Cheshire: no no tabletop, pencil and paper
Cheshire: mine?
codespace: the matrix is primarily a visual medium
Cheshire: I just have some very cool ideas put into it
Cheshire: I know
Drakdragon: I can make a neat matrix rpg with rpg maker
codespace: as a pen and paper variety, you could quite simply modify existing worlds, and be done
Drakdragon: great fighting and all
codespace: Drak: not a videogame, numbskull.
Drakdragon: lol
Cheshire: yes code, but that'd be dull
Drakdragon: ooooooooooh
codespace: and what features do you intend to bring to the table?
codespace: i've designed 12 RPG's, and played well over 40
codespace: including the early playtests on rifts
Cheshire: cool

Travisimo: Actually if you are looking for an RPG like the Matrix you should try MAGE: The Ascention

Cheshire: rifts is a bit too in depth, which leads easily to confusion
Cheshire: played it
codespace: it depends on your players and your GM(s)

Travisimo: Limit the players to playing Akashic Brothers and have adventures fighting Iteration X

Cheshire: I preferred Vampire and Werewolf

Travisimo: It's Matrix enough. :)

codespace: whitewolf games are boring
Cheshire: not at all
Cheshire: there system is very slickl though
Cheshire: slick

Travisimo: Wow codespace that's very harsh.

codespace: that's what i find boring

Travisimo: LOL

Cheshire: they lack background
codespace: you don't have to put hardly any effort into character creation
Cheshire: very true

Travisimo: Lac background? All White Wolf games are is background.

codespace: i can bang out a whitewolf sheet in like 20 minutes
codespace: including a 2 page typewritten background
Cheshire: no they're not, they're politics, nothing more
codespace: they don't make you work for your character like rifts
Cheshire: they are fun at times, don't get me wrong
codespace: or even worse, like Heroes

Travisimo: Work for your character?

Cheshire: rifts makes you work a bit too much though
codespace: heroes will pwn you when you make your first char
Cheshire: really get into your character
Sorwon: ie. clean, bathe, laundry.
codespace: 2-3 game sessions spent on that alone
Cheshire: make you care about their plight
codespace: in palladium systems, you spend a lot of time tweaking your character

Travisimo: Isn't that a good thing?

codespace: you're presented with a LOT of options

Travisimo: The caring about the plight and all?

codespace: it's very detailed
codespace: yes
Cheshire: that's the tough part, finding that line between realism and fun
codespace: which is why i'm not a huge fan of whitewolf
codespace: you don't work that hard at making a char
Cheshire: if its too realistic, it can be too complicated and too... "real" aka boring

Travisimo: White Wolf games never really care so much about the rules and more about the story.


Travisimo: Rules were means to tell a story.

codespace: yeah
Rambler: My friend pulled out the After the Bomb series of RPGs from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
codespace: that's what the whitewolf games all say at the beginning

Travisimo: Not to arbitrate how fast your gun can shoot in 2 seconds.

Rambler: It was actually fun to play
codespace: "the rules don't arbitrate your storytelling experience"
codespace: yadda yadda yadda
Cheshire: yes, but it can't be too simple, otherwise its just playing make-believe

Travisimo: I used to work there codespace :)

codespace: a book shouldn't HAVE to tell you that.
Rambler: And I'm looking to get the Discworld RPG soon. I don't think it will be that good but I love the novels

Travisimo: It's all playing make believe.

codespace: i know that
Cheshire: then why spend money on the book
codespace: and it's all well and good that you worked there
Rambler: just play Battleships I say
codespace: but the system is boring
Rambler: best pen and pencil game next to Tic-Tac-Toe

Travisimo: Chesire, you spend money on the books for ideas.

codespace: the setting itself is just "look at me be dark and gothic, it's so tragic"
codespace: that annoys me

Travisimo: Well it's not for everyone.

codespace: by no means
Cheshire: I won't drop 25 - 35 dollars on an idea
Cheshire: ideas I have
codespace: i've run vampire campaigns
Rambler: you know what annoys me? The fact that I'm still awake. I want to sleep
codespace: *shrug*
Cheshire: I want a game

Travisimo: Well you drop 25/30 bucks on rules tho?

Cheshire: yes

Travisimo: I think the ideas are the things worth paying for.

codespace: it's usable, and it's good for highly political campaigns
codespace: but my players like action

Travisimo: Rules are throw away.

Cheshire: a game is worth paying for
Rambler: I think food is worth paying for. I'm a poor college student, I can't afford ideas.
Rambler: But I still like RPGs

Travisimo: I mean there are plenty of game systems. Hero / White Wolf// Gurps etc....


Travisimo: But it's the settings that you pay for.

Rambler: good night
Cheshire: I sent the Wachowski's a letter, but assume it was thrown out as it was unsolicited
Rambler: I'm just getting satiracle now
Rambler: I'll be off
Cheshire: nite rambler

Travisimo: LOL Rambler. I hear you.

Cheshire: so how do I get them to hear my idea?
Cheshire: Any ideas?
Rambler[notaround]: you beg them... for your soul
codespace: Cheshire: copyright it and send them a copy
Cheshire: I would... how do I do that
Rambler[notaround]: or you simply try yourself and get them to file a lawsuit for copyright infingement.
Rambler[notaround]: make an RPG "similar" to the Matrix
codespace: if they reject it, you simply scratch off all the direct referrences to the matrix, or bullet time, etc
Cheshire: I can't copyright it, its their idea
codespace: yes
Rambler[notaround]: called it. Virtualix
codespace: you can

Travisimo: Chesire most of the times creative places don't take unsolicited ideas. It's kinda dangerous.

Cheshire: I know
Cheshire: hence my problem
Rambler[notaround]: wait 3 months
codespace: just because your ideas are inspired by the matrix doesn't mean you don't own that idea.
Rambler[notaround]: if it still feels like a good idea
Cheshire: for what?

Travisimo: If it's a good idea why don't you write it yourself?

Rambler[notaround]: go for it

Travisimo: You make the money.

Cheshire: I've been working on it since this summer already
Cheshire: I can't market their idea
Rambler[notaround]: so tweak it enough to make it original
codespace: dude
codespace: stop focusing on it being their original idea
Cheshire: and its just plain cheap to file off the serial numbers and say its mine
Rambler[notaround]: like what they did with Bullet Proof Monk *shudders*
codespace: it's not plagiarism
codespace: it's inspiration.
Rambler[notaround]: It was Matrix... but not Matrix
Cheshire: *cough crap!*
codespace: Rambler[notaround]: you are the one.... who will carry this crappy scroll!
Cheshire: lol
Rambler[notaround]: yup

Travisimo: Codespace are you the same one who posts on the MxO boards?

Rambler[notaround]: *sleeping*
codespace: yes.

Travisimo: Sweet.

codespace: i'm the only codespace out there, cept for some software company
Cheshire: I'm Khanstruct on the boards
codespace: nice to meet you

Travisimo: <~ IFTHENPAX

Rambler[notaround]: oh, I'll change my name to the one I use on the boards... even though I don't post there
codespace: cool.
codespace: nice to meet you, as well.
Cheshire: on the Matrix Community board, I'm Cheshire
codespace: should i kneel? lol
Syphro[notaround]: And I'm Syphro

Travisimo: For what?

Syphro[notaround]: I'm also Irish

Travisimo: I'm just hanging out.

Syphro[notaround]: and very very much asleep
Cheshire: from Ireland Irish?
Syphro[notaround]: born and raised. I live in Canada.
codespace: Travisimo: a number of members of the community have practically deified you, to the point of closely examining your username for hidden meaning
Syphro[notaround]: And I lost my accent since I moved here at a young age

Travisimo: Yeah, I saw that.

Cheshire: you have a french accent?
Syphro[notaround]: no, I have a Canadian accent
codespace: i was amused as hell
Syphro[notaround]: cause I live in Canada
Cheshire: or just a northern "ya der" accent
Syphro[notaround]: Ontario
Syphro[notaround]: Toronto

Travisimo: We're reading all the posts. Trust me we are listening.

Syphro[notaround]: very clear english
codespace: oh, i figured as much
codespace: nonetheless, it's amusing to see people get that far into conspiracy theories
Syphro[notaround]: with a faint faint faint hint of Irish
Cheshire: why do the Wachowskis have to be so damn shy!!!
Syphro[notaround]: cause they're gamers like the rest of us
Cheshire: some guy on another forum thinks the Matrix is real and that I'm an Oracle

Travisimo: I am not going to speak for them. Not my place.

Syphro[notaround]: and unlike Tarantino who has no one the brothers have each other
Cheshire: damn them
codespace: Cheshire: they're bloody rich, they don't need to have their photos all over the place

Travisimo: LOL

Cheshire: I wanna talk to 'em!!!
Sorwon: I'd probably be a little shy too, after creating one of the most popular and interesting stories of this generation.
Cheshire: Anne Rice talked to me, why not them!
Syphro[notaround]: I'm in radio, I will meet them one day
codespace: Cheshire: i somehow think that there's a lot of people out there who share that opinion
codespace: anne rice isn't shy *shrug*

Travisimo: I met her before. She's cool.

codespace: i have her number
Syphro[notaround]: I will get to interview them
codespace: stephen king is cool as hell, too
Syphro[notaround]: on a radio show
codespace: met him in a grocery store
Cheshire: I know, she'll come out, have a cup of coffee with ya
Syphro[notaround]: I'll interview him as well.
codespace: right before dark tower IV came out
Syphro[notaround]: I once met Kramer
Syphro[notaround]: I dont know his real name
Cheshire: Kosmo! :)
Syphro[notaround]: yup
Syphro[notaround]: hes tall
codespace: Travisimo: so i think i'll get the obligatory begging outta the way
codespace: Travisimo: can i please please please be in the beta?
Syphro[notaround]: he had short hair though, I didn't recognize him

Travisimo: LOL Not gonna make those choices yet.

Cheshire: code, who're you begging
codespace: hahaha
codespace: i figured as much
codespace: hence the "obligatory"
Sorwon: I ran into Sam Bowie during a business dinner in Portland, Ore a couple years ago. I thought I'd break my neck looking up at him.

Travisimo: I hear you.

Syphro[notaround]: I won't beg, but I will be very happy if I can get involved. Not for the free game, just to play my part in helping the creation of it.
Cheshire: who are you begging?
codespace: Cheshire: i was begging Travisimo
Syphro[notaround]: my dad sold wine to Bono in his wine shop 10 years ago
Cheshire: "big brother"?
Cheshire: why
Syphro[notaround]: in Ireland
codespace: because it seemed the thing to do

Travisimo: LOL Codespace.

Cheshire: Travisimo... are you more important than you let on?
Syphro[notaround]: Bono wrote a check and my dad didn't cash it. He paid for the wine himself so he could keep Bono's autograph
Sorwon: send them cookies and beer, you'll get in Codespace :)
codespace: pff

Travisimo: I am not here on any official capacity Cheshire. Just hanging out.

codespace: pretzels and beer, or cookies and milk
Cheshire: that's not an answer

Travisimo: And being careful not to say anything binding or official.


Travisimo: :)

codespace: Travisimo: you're personable. less intimidating than i thought you'd be.
Syphro[notaround]: so hold up. Travis, you're involved in the game in some way? I didn't get that vibe. Very smooth

Travisimo: Why do I need to be intimidating?

Cheshire: ??
Syphro[notaround]: wait, I'm not supposed to be around

Travisimo: Yes Syphro I am the Executive Producer.

Syphro[notaround]: !?!
Cheshire: !!!!!!!!!!!
Syphro[notaround]: *cough*
Cheshire: You have contacts!
Syphro[notaround]: Well then
Cheshire: You're holding out on me
Cheshire: ;)

Travisimo: Just here to say what's up really.

Sorwon: cause he's not working right now....
Cheshire: I know
codespace: Travisimo: you're a VIP. by definition, most VIP's are intimidating and/or full of themselves
Cheshire: :(
Syphro[notaround]: I'm just a radio student in Toronto. But I will be interviewing you some day

Travisimo: That and listening to Metallica on the AMAs. LOL

Syphro[notaround]: well the man has taste
codespace: mmm
Syphro: I guess I am around
Cheshire: but seriously, Travis, could you...maybe...pull a string or two?
codespace: digitally imported: eurotrance

Travisimo: pull a string for what?

Syphro: His
Syphro: idea
Cheshire: he hasn't been listening :(

Travisimo: Oh no there is a big issue with idea submissions.

Sorwon: Metallica will do that to you.
Syphro: not for the game though
Syphro: somethign else

Travisimo: I know.

Cheshire: I just wanna pitch the idea to them
codespace: ah
codespace: even better
codespace: DI's goa sessions.

Travisimo: Warner Bros. does all kinds of entertainment.

Cheshire: right, but no one has done this
Syphro: just think man, how many "ideas" do you think are picthced to them though?
Cheshire: which I find amazing in and of itself

Travisimo: I would suggest you get some kind of representation.

codespace: Cheshire: that's why it will work.
codespace: Cheshire: TY code lol
Cheshire: how do I get representation
Syphro: yea, so you don't get ripped off. I still beleive I created the idea for Star Trek Enterprise

Travisimo: There are plenty of agents... literary and what not. Check out Yahoo.

codespace: Syphro: hm... did you do it on purpose?
Cheshire: I do own a company, we just have yet to put anything on the shelves
codespace: Cheshire: if you see an agent, do what i do: run.
Cheshire: lol

Travisimo: There is so much legalese in idea ownership that you want someone who knows what they are doing to help you out.

Sorwon: thats lawyers
codespace: lol
Syphro: I sent in a letter... during the Voyager run... after voyager was completed they announced the next series. It was dead on to my idea... I was very young and naive then.
codespace: intellectual property
Syphro: It's my claim to faim
Cheshire: yes, I have a lawyer and a legit company and all that

Travisimo: That's the best advice I can give you. Get help in the legal dept.

Cheshire: but how do I get "Them" to hear it
Cheshire: how did your boss do it
Syphro: well I'm just a radio bum. But tell me Travis (can I call you Travis) whats it like, Moral wise, to be involved in the continuation of this whole darn thing
Cheshire: lol
Sorwon: probably should ask him about copyright's, etc. Then contact WB and see how you'd go about getting a meeting for a sales pitch to them.
Cheshire: wow, and the interview begins

Travisimo: Well my mom calls me Travis...


Travisimo: that and jackass.

DevilHimself: haha
Cheshire: I hate being idle!!! It feels stagnant!
codespace: lol
Syphro: I'm just messing, no intereview here. I'm too tired. I'll make a fool of myself. Besides, I'm still in school.
Cheshire: c'mon Travis, I'm "networking" here
Syphro: but one day, I will have that interview

Travisimo: I'll answer one question: It feels exciting and scary at the same time. Cause you guys are pretty demanding.

Cheshire: that's what the biz is all about right?
Cheshire: YES WE ARE
Sorwon: no its about cheesits and pepsi.
Syphro: I think there are only two things more demanding. Tolkein fans and Trekkers
Cheshire: WE WILL STAND FOR NO CRAP

Travisimo: Star Wars fans.


Travisimo: Which I am...

Cheshire: I think we got Star Wars fans beat
Sorwon: SW fans scare me as much as clowns do.

Travisimo: Hey Hey Hey...

Syphro: yea, but they've been betrayed twice... I've been betrayed twice (ep 1 and 2)
codespace: hm

Travisimo: I am a Star Wars fan.

codespace: SW fans from the original trilogy era
codespace: they were rabid.
Cheshire: me too, but I think Matrix fans are a bit more fanatical

Travisimo: You know I was in NY at the time and I got tickets to the 1AM showing of EP1

Sorwon: I was gearing that towards the types who go out dressed as Obi-wan to see the movies O.o
codespace: Travisimo: holy shit, i was at that showing.
Syphro: but how can they be demanding? They're just excentric. Hard to be demanding on something that was completed in the 70's

Travisimo: I was watching the screen and when it ended I was in awe. I was like....


Travisimo: I WAITED MY WHOLE LIFE FOR THIS

Cheshire: I didn't wear a trenchcoat and sunglasses to M3... honest!

Travisimo: GIMME MY MOVIE YOU BASTIDS!


Travisimo: It was RAINING!

Cheshire: "uphill, both ways!"
codespace: Cheshire: dude, i wore one to the 4th show i saw of m1
Syphro: Hype can be a dangerous thing... *looks towards Enter the Matrix*
codespace: EtM was and still is one of my top 20 fave games
Cheshire: see, the funny thing is, I always wear a trenchcoat and sunglasses
Syphro: but it was soooo buggy.
Cheshire: I'm alergic to the sun
Syphro: woa
Syphro: it's raining thick and hard outside right now
Syphro: and I just joined this channel today
codespace: hoodies are more efficient
Cheshire: so at the Matrix... I looked like a sad little wannabe
Syphro: an... omen perhaps?

Travisimo: Well I live in Orange County now so it doesn't rain often. EXCEPT FOR THE PAST WEEK!

Syphro: I live in Toronto. It's cold now
Sorwon: And it's going to keep raining through this next week too..
Syphro: and wet
Cheshire: Wisconsin! haha, we suck the most
Syphro: but not as wet as in Ireland
Syphro: thats really wet
Sorwon: Pacific forecasts show systems stretching from here to Japan.
Syphro: and damp
Cheshire: NY gets more snow, but we get ugly snow

Travisimo: I loved going to Wisconsin to GenCon.

codespace: Travisimo: think it doesn't rain THERE? pff. come over to phoenix sometime.

Travisimo: King and I mmmmm

Cheshire: me too!
Syphro: Toronto gets snow... but thats cause it's in Canada
Cheshire: now its in Indianapolis

Travisimo: I know... :)

Sorwon: Or come to the NW where we drive boats to work.
codespace: i can't wait till necrowombicon
Cheshire: yes, SEE!!! I'm in the heart of the RPG world
Cheshire: I was born to write the Matrix RPG

Travisimo: Midwest...

Cheshire: it is...my destiny
codespace: NWC is held in vancouver.
Cheshire: *takes a bow*
Syphro: I was born to one day interview Quentin Tarantino. Do you see me braggin?

Travisimo: Man when I was at White Wolf the midwest was awesome... there wasn't anything else to do there so people just gamed.

codespace: more'n likely, in the 4 days i'll be there, i'll see more rain in vancouver than i'll see all year in phx.
Cheshire: I interviewed a couple guys from white wolf
Sorwon: Heh, I live in Vancouver, just not the one in Canada.
Cheshire: they were with Holistic when I interviewed them though

Travisimo: So it must have been Bill and Andrew.

Cheshire: YES
Syphro: Go to Galway, Ireland. More rain, fog, damp, cold weather than you will ever see.... except for the places that are more wet
codespace: ireland requires a passport though
Cheshire: small world
codespace: canada? not so much
Syphro: Canadian passports work. and I was born there. So I can work in Europe. Spain is warmer than Ireland. I think I'll work there.

Travisimo: Chesire I was the 5th employee of white wolf. I helped write Ars Magica, Vampire, Werewolf and Mage.

Cheshire: I have Ars Magica
Cheshire: I really like the concept behind the system

Travisimo: :: sniff :: I have a soft spot in my heart for that game.


Travisimo: Got me into game making.

codespace: ars magica i dig.
Cheshire: good god man, we have to talk
Cheshire: Travis, you are my new best friend
codespace: lol
Syphro: Cheshire, it's late. go to sleep
codespace: Travisimo: you probably get that alot.
Syphro: what can you accomplish at 2 in the morning?

Travisimo: Get what?

Cheshire: you have no idea how many of my paychecks you got
Syphro: or whatever time you'r ein
codespace: Cheshire: Travis, you are my new best friend
codespace: ^ that
Cheshire: 12:57

Travisimo: It's cool.

codespace: i'm just wryly amused

Travisimo: More people in gaming need to be approachable.

Cheshire: did you miss the fact that I live in Wisconsin
codespace: you can practically see my text smirking
Syphro: more people need to apporachable

Travisimo: When I was 17 Lord British showed me a game design doc for Ultima.


Travisimo: I said to myself: I CAN DO THAT.

Cheshire: the air here is poisonous to IQ's over 50
Cheshire: okay... I'm sorry to be "one of those people" but can we talk, like via e-mail
Cheshire: there's tons of stuff I'd like to talk to you about
Session Time: Mon Nov 17 00:00:00 2003
Cheshire: I'm a third shift hash slinger at a ma n pa greasy spoon in central wisconsin
Cheshire: I have to get out of here!!!

Travisimo: Well Cheshire I am not going anywhere. Except to bed in a little while to keep my wife from slapping me.

Cheshire: you see a chat room... I see providence
Cheshire: :)
Cheshire: sorry
Cheshire: could I maybe throw some thoughts at you... though I'd prefer e-mail
Cheshire: and don't worry about that solicitation thing
Cheshire: I could care less

Travisimo: Cheshire just post the questions on the board. We will answer them.

Cheshire: I'd be ecstatic if some big name stole my idea
Sorwon: O.o
Sorwon: interesting
Divid3byZer0: anyone know what the biggest clan out there is?
codespace: heh
Divid3byZer0: is it The Dark Reborn?

Travisimo: We are more than likely gonna do some re-orging of the message boards soon enough.

codespace: does it matter?
Divid3byZer0: or is it TCTS
Cheshire: here's how I see it, if someone doesn't use my ideas, they'll die with me, and I don't want that
codespace: i'd hope so, Travisimo
Divid3byZer0: doesnt reall matter
codespace: i don't like having the forums merged with the Myst forums, lol

Travisimo: Feelin the taint? LOL

Sorwon: Well then, unless you only have 72 hrs to live or something, I wouldn't be worrying too much.
Cheshire: again, I'm sorry, but my god man!
codespace: lol
codespace: i was wondering what the hell D'ni referrences were doing in my MxO
Cheshire: you helped design games that inspired me and now you're working on a project that I want to ... kinda... be a part of
codespace: if i see a single linking book in MxO, i'm gonna getcha Travisimo

Travisimo: LOL

Syphro: I came up with a new name

Travisimo: I really dislike Myst. I am almost violent about it.

Syphro: for MxO
codespace: FINALLY
codespace: SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME
codespace: death to myst.

Travisimo: Well I respect the need for other types of gaming.


Travisimo: It's just really not mine.

codespace: lo
codespace: lol
codespace: i knew you'd toss in a disclaimer.
Atrius: I didn't like the games so much as I liked the books that they wrot
codespace: i enjoyed the books... kind of.
codespace: i'm still iffy about it

Travisimo: No I mean it... I mean I think there are movies that we make at WB that are not my kind of movie.


Travisimo: But I see why people dig on them.

codespace: lol, i know
Cheshire: like what?
codespace: i'm just having fun poking at a corporate executive.
Cheshire: out of curiosity

Travisimo: Any movie with Sandra Bullock pretty much...

Cheshire: lol
codespace: HEH

Travisimo: Only because I think she's hella cute.. just not HOT.


Travisimo: And if I am gonna watch a romantic comedy I need some HOTNESS.

codespace: lol
codespace: true true
Cheshire: yeah, save the cute for the dramas
Cheshire: it works there

Travisimo: So when I see games like Myst I go well I can see what people see in them.

codespace: hm

Travisimo: I just hate what they see.

Syphro: Ok, I REALLY need sleep. I have classes tomorow. Classes on NEWS. A guy named Robert Holiday is my teacher... doesn't take kindly to nappers.
Cheshire: it's a puzzle game
codespace: cute works on sitcoms, hot works for movies

Travisimo: Games really need diversity tho.

codespace: Syphro: i have an interview tomorrow
codespace: lol
Cheshire: I like hot on tv too

Travisimo: Peace out Syphro.

codespace: Syphro: sleep well
Cheshire: its the only reason I watch Charmed
codespace: heh
codespace: i can't watch charmed
Syphro: Oh I will. All 6 hours worth
Cheshire: Milano!
codespace: it makes me feel uncomfortable
Cheshire: are you mad!?
codespace: i grew up on who's the boss.
TheArchitech: I LOVE how this channel is always active
Cheshire: heh
codespace: that's frigging creepy
Cheshire: I guess
codespace: TheArchitech: howdy
TheArchitech: The diversity alway has people talking
TheArchitech: always*
codespace: TheArchitech: nerds are nightowls, by nature.
TheArchitech: Hello agian, Mr. Code :)
TheArchitech: I noticed
TheArchitech: I'm transforming myself
codespace: but i confess, i'm only awake right now cos i'm laundering

Travisimo: Except when they have to wake up early for some godforsaken reason.

TheArchitech: I haven o motive to stay up, and waste away my live. But I do, naturally.
codespace: gotta interview tomorrow at 1:30pm
Cheshire: I hardly sleep
*codespace is psyched about ti
codespace: *it
Cheshire: worried I'll miss something
TheArchitech: For what, code?

Travisimo: Hey code what did you think of the screenshots?

codespace: a position with fry's electronics
codespace: they called me on a saturday, if that's any indication of how much they want me.
Cheshire: doing what?
codespace: Travisimo: it's looking good so far, but I'd like to see more screenshots of the varying degrees of user interface
codespace: ChanServ: sales
codespace: damned nickcomplete
TheArchitech: I have school tommarow at 6:30.
codespace: Cheshire: sales
Cheshire: spiffy
TheArchitech: Yet I'll be up until 1 AM
TheArchitech: For no reason
Cheshire: I have class at 9 am... oh well
codespace: i'll be awake until 3am, probably
codespace: cos i have studying to do

Travisimo: Gotcha Code.

codespace: college is gonna be a pain.
TheArchitech: I should probably try to normalize myself
codespace: Travisimo: a healthy interface that's customizable is REALLY important to me
TheArchitech: Because getting 5 hours of sleep isn't very healthy
Cheshire: I'm going for business administration... painfully boring

Travisimo: Hey I got laughed at in school for saying I want to make games.

codespace: i grew up on tribes HUD's and EQ's hud setup
Cheshire: I hear that
TheArchitech: That's a intellegent thing to do, choose your vocation of off something that's painfully boring :P
Cheshire: I got laughed at today for saying that
Cheshire: no, but business is a solid degree
TheArchitech: Sleep is overrated.
Cheshire: I can walk in anywhere and get a job

Travisimo: I make more money than my professor so who's laughin now?

Cheshire: lol
TheArchitech: Computer Science is better :P
Cheshire: the guy that thought up FedEx got a D in his business class
TheArchitech: I wonder what IT job ranks in the most money.
Cheshire: not for long
TheArchitech: Cheshire: You know that because it's a fluke, it's not something average.
Cheshire: everyone will be doing that soon

Travisimo: IT as in Info Tech?

codespace: flukes != the norm
Sorwon: I should have gone to school for a comp. degree, but I jumped into the database field during the beginning of the dot.com surge so you really didn't need one then :(

Travisimo: Chief Technical Officer

codespace: Travisimo: that's more management than actual IT =P
TheArchitech: How much do they make?
Cheshire: now that sounds impressive
TheArchitech: Yea it does
codespace: Travisimo: the most money here in america is coding, whereas in japan it's networking.
TheArchitech: "So, what do you do for a living"
TheArchitech: "I'm a Chief Technical Officer"

Travisimo: Codespace... management is where you end up when you're good.

Cheshire: :( I'm a COOK!
TheArchitech: That's gold, right there.

Travisimo: It doesn't make sense but it's true.

codespace: Travisimo: yeah, but i think he's talking about ground-level
TheArchitech: Trav: yes, I am
Cheshire: I make omlettes and pray everyday for a quick death
codespace: CTO's not something you start out at unless it's the late 90's and you gave yourself a title to impress the venture capitalists

Travisimo: Hey you are a really good programmer... why don't you try MANAGEMENT.


Travisimo: DOH

codespace: i've done management, lol
Cheshire: me too

Travisimo: But I wasn't good at management I was good at programming. LOL

TheArchitech: I suck at programing
codespace: i was U-Haul International's Customer Service manager for a couple years
Cheshire: at a fast freakin food restaraunt!
Cheshire: wow, my life is getting more depressing as the night moves on
TheArchitech: Poor Cheshire, no one even responds to me
TheArchitech: to him*
Cheshire: :(
codespace: Cheshire: you know i <3 you in a completely heterosexual manner
TheArchitech: That wasn't my innerself trying to come out. That was my sleep deprived self :P
Cheshire: lol
Cheshire: well thank you
Cheshire: I'll take sympathy at this point
TheArchitech: IRC OGs = spooky.
Cheshire: did I mention my fiance just left me
TheArchitech: :(
codespace: sucks

Travisimo: LOL My wife just gave me the go to bed look. I got another 10 min before I get smacked.

Cheshire: okay, I'll stop that now
codespace: hahaha
codespace: go to bed, trav
codespace: we'll all be here tomorrow
SacredSinister: im here!
TheArchitech: I don't know why, but that was really funny Trav

Travisimo: Nah... I am folding clothes and typing. I gotta wait till my gym clothes come out of the dryer.

codespace: haha
Cheshire: I have 2 year old son
codespace: ohshi.
Cheshire: who'll grow up without his daddy!!!
codespace: i have no idea how to tie a tie.
codespace: i forgot =/
Cheshire: okay, now I'm just being melodramatic

Travisimo: LOL

codespace: and i just bought a new tie today
TheArchitech: RTFM!!!!

Travisimo: Code my dad taught me when I was 5

codespace: my memory's not so good with some things
Cheshire: I have a tie... somewhere
codespace: like, i can remember the cheats for doom

Travisimo: My ties look like a machine did them they are soo tight.

Cheshire: I wore it once... my sister tied it
Sorwon: google search it, should have step by step instructions on how to tie a tie :)
codespace: but i can't remember how to tie a tie.
TheArchitech: Exactly
Cheshire: still ignored
TheArchitech: Google is a man's best friend.
Cheshire: ...
Cheshire: martians...selling cottage cheese, door-to-door
Cheshire: ...nothing?
Sorwon: you can cheat with ties to (for a while anyways) learn to tie them, then leave them tied but loose. That way you can wear them a couple times before they need to be washed and you don't have to retie them.
TheArchitech: You must be incredibly lazy.
TheArchitech: :)
Sorwon: nope
Cheshire: I got an A in creative writing in school
Cheshire: you'd think I'd be more popular in chat rooms
TheArchitech: Why is Catherine Bell so hot?
Cheshire: wow... that was random
Sorwon: exactly

Travisimo: LOL

Sorwon: thats how you get peoples attention Cheshire

Travisimo: Cause her mom ate peas?

Cheshire: this is just gettin goofy
Nassan: Heya All

Travisimo: Hey here's a question for you guys...

Sorwon: the answer is 10
Cheshire: 42!

Travisimo: What are you looking forward to most in the game?

Sorwon: hello Nassan
Nassan: The action an d the story
TheArchitech: http://www.skins.be/framepic.php?id=10002094
Cheshire: damn...can't think of anything witty
Cheshire: okay, honestly
TheArchitech: Gah... gahh... ga
*TheArchitech faints

Travisimo: Ms Bell aint in the game.

Cheshire: the size of the city
Sorwon: as much freedom as technically possible in combat I suppose would be my top pick.
Cheshire: I wanna see a huge, vast world
TheArchitech: That's a top one for me, Sor.
Nassan: i wanna see an agent

Travisimo: No, you don't.

Cheshire: low expectations much?
Nassan: yes i do

Travisimo: Hey is that an *SMACK*

codespace: looking forward to most?
codespace: hmm
Cheshire: they will woop yo arse
codespace: that's actually a difficult question
TheArchitech: Trav, but wouldn't that be a honor in itself?
Nassan: no i will run...like always
codespace: i'm looking forward to being in the matrix, but that's merely an abstraction
Nassan: i wanna see how fast they are
Cheshire: I'll stay and fight... and die a martyr's death

Travisimo: I got 0wn3d by an agent ask me how. LOL

Cheshire: you fought one?
codespace: i suppose if there were any one thing i look forward to most in the game, it's fighting agents.
Cheshire: that's how I'd do it
TheArchitech: "HEY, ISN'T THAT A A-- "System: You just got your OWNED.. " - "Where would you like to respawn?"
Nassan: lolz
codespace: i kicked the agents in EtM around like a soccerball.
Cheshire: liar
TheArchitech: you just got your owned.
codespace: uhm, nope
TheArchitech: I'm the making sense good!
Sorwon: I understand the need for some sort of controlled boundries in MMO combat, I think some sort of EtM/JKII type combat really wouldn't work, with a complex combat system. But, at the same time, some system that allows a person to feel in control of their characters actions in combat.
codespace: it's not that hard to slap the agents in EtM around
SacredSinister: omg jk2 owns
SacredSinister: and ja
Nassan: yes with cheats
codespace: certain combinations of moves that almost invariably work
Cheshire: I like the sound of the combat system
SacredSinister: taht would own
Sorwon: I think people tend to think twice these days about the whole auto-combat use, when we've seen what combat can be done like today.
SacredSinister: a mmofps but w/ rpg element
Cheshire: I'm also a classic rpg fan, where you can think about your attacks
SacredSinister: like ff
codespace: 's not cheating, just exploiting little bugs in the AI
Cheshire: hell yes
TheArchitech: I've always loved Twitch combat

Travisimo: Cool...

SacredSinister: i prefer fps
Cheshire: I don't like hack-n-slash
SacredSinister: ybut twitch is ok
Cheshire: button crunching
Cheshire: yes
TheArchitech: Ughm.
SacredSinister: button crunching is sweet
TheArchitech: A FPS is Twitch.
Sorwon: From my view though a true twitch style combat would end up looking very sloppy.
SacredSinister: but u can dl animated moves
Cheshire: and takes no skill
TheArchitech: Unless you're on Xbox or something, and it autoaims
SacredSinister: arch i was thiunknig turnbase
TheArchitech: Sorwon: That's true, which I why I love interlock
SacredSinister: got confused with wordage
TheArchitech: The elegence of the combat will be awesome to watch, but it will never be as elegent as something you have complete control over.
Cheshire: I hate the hack-n-slash system of the newer RPG's
TheArchitech: OH MY GOD
Cheshire: like Kingdom Hearts
Sorwon: What made the fights in the Matrix very cool was the flow, they moved very smoothly. And for those people that like twitch based combat, I personally don't see that as a smooth combat technique.
TheArchitech: I need to go to bed
TheArchitech: I'm making absolutly no sense

Travisimo: Did the Interlock article on the website make sense?

TheArchitech: It will never be as INTENSE as something.
Cheshire: I think so
Cheshire: it seemed to confuse some people though
TheArchitech: I think I should proof read after 11 -.-
Sorwon: I'll reread it again, I honestly should, since I was so excited that the forums were up that I just did a quick speed read through it :)
Cheshire: of course, it isn't a standard system yet, so some people won't get it just by reading about it

Travisimo: Well I thought the interlock system solves a lot of problems people have with MMOs. When you are watching a typical MMO the only way you can tell who's winning a fight is looking at meters or watching the floating numbers.

Nassan: hey i'm going 2 jack out...got 2 go 2 school....C ya All "I see The Darkness Spreading"

Travisimo: In interlock when you are getting owned it looks that way :)

Nassan: c ya
Cheshire: you can say, turn based and people know what you're talking about, but this is a buit new
Cheshire: bit*
Cheshire: by Nassan
codespace: so in interlock, when you're getting your ass kicked, you look bruised?
Cheshire: ??
Cheshire: really?

Travisimo: I am not saying anymore than just what I said.

codespace: Cheshire: i'm asking.
codespace: Travisimo: fair enough.
Cheshire: I know
Cheshire: damn!
codespace: Travisimo: what does it look like from outside the fight?
TheArchitech: Hrm. People don't instantly bruise.

Travisimo: Well I am gonna run now... no sense in getting into interlock combat with my wife.

codespace: like, spectators of a battle, what do they see?
TheArchitech: Code, have you not seen the trailer?
Sorwon: heh

Travisimo: She has mad skill levels.

Cheshire: Travisimo: could I maybe send you just one little e-mail
codespace: TheArchitech: yes.
Sorwon: Thanks for the visit :)
TheArchitech: You have not?
codespace: Travisimo: have a good night, and drop in tomorrow.
TheArchitech: Night Trav, and Nassan.
Sorwon: Avoid the uber wife agro, it's worse then 10 agents.
codespace: TheArchitech: i hate when people use the "have you not" crap.

Travisimo: I will try... but I am going to NY for a week of meetings next week. I might be packing.


Travisimo: If I drop in I will HOLLA

codespace: it's like "do you mind if"
TheArchitech: Thanks for sharing, Codespace
codespace: holla indeed.
Cheshire: one little pitch?
codespace: night trav.
TheArchitech: Have you seen the trailer?

Travisimo: Night everyone!

TheArchitech: Night :)
codespace: yes, i have
Cheshire: nite Trav
Cheshire: :(

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